Episode 70 – Ron Baker

March 15, 2017

Ron’s passion drives deeper client connections


Ron Baker really hates the billable hour. I mean really, really, really hates it. And you can throw in timesheets, too, while you’re at it. It all started after he left his job at Peat, Marwick, Mitchell & Co. to start his own firm and realized how annoying it was for his clients to not know what they were going to pay in the end. He immediately started value pricing and hasn’t looked back since, having written several books and coached many other firm owners to do the same. And, oh yeah, he’s a pretty decent golfer who loves to travel.

In this episode, we talk about how professionals aren’t paid for tasks but rather are paid for outcomes. Unfortunately, many professional services firms have a vision that’s too narrow and utilitarian, which creates an anti-innovation culture that is slow moving and measuring the wrong metrics, like six-minute blocks of time. As Ron said, “We don’t build relationships by being efficient!”

Ron Baker is the Founder of VeraSage Institute and the co-host of The Soul of Enterprise on VoiceAmerica Talk Radio.

He graduated from San Francisco State University with a BS in Accounting and Economics.

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Ed Kless and Ron team up for The Soul of Enterprise radio show every Friday afternoon.

Ron was invited to be a part of the Thought Leader Symposium by CPA Practice Advisor.

On stage as the keynote speaker for the 2015 Scaling New Heights Conference.

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